IMPORTANT, READ FIRST
Installation / Mod Package Notes:
- You must have MSFS 2020 with the stock Boeing 787-10 model to use this Mod. This mod is not a stand-alone aircraft. If you install without, you will see game crashes.
- This mod doesn't address ANY avionics modifications or any changes to the general cockpit functionality. Unless you can clearly demonstrate otherwise, any bugs or issues with the cockpit functionality are not related to this mod. Please DO NOT inquire about avionics or instruments faults or bugs that you find with the game's default avionics or other 3rd party modifications to the 787-10's systems - I can't help you. These are not the subject of this mod.
- You must have Modern flight model enabled to use this mod. It will not work properly with Legacy flight model settings.
- To confirm correct installation, when in the livery selection menu for the 787-10 in MSFS2020, the default Asobo Boeing 787-10 livery will display the following in the variant area "DAKFLY FDE MOD 1.X.X". This will help you quickly identify whether installation of the package was successful and identify package version - this version information will only show up under the default Asobo livery listing and not other liveries, however the performance modifications will be applied to all liveries you have installed.
- The mod does not work with all third party liveries. Some third party liveries are old/out of date and never did or no longer follow proper file structure / installation guidelines and are not compatible. As a result you may see instability or crashes when you do attempt to use these liveries.
- If your install doesn't work initially, before posting here or on the forum, please close the sim and remove the mod from the community folder. Start the sim and completely reinstall your default 787-10 from the Content Manager under your Profile area to ensure you have the latest version. Verify the stock / default B787-10 is present and works correctly. Close the sim. Re-download the package here and then re-install the mod as directed (downloads from this site can become corrupted, so that can be a cause of problems with the mod). Restart the sim and verify installation. If this doesn't work, PM me.
Asobo Boeing 787-10 Flight Dynamics and Performance Modifications Project Version 1.0.2
Changes in This Version (significant previous changes have been made and documented in the readme file included in the download file package):
-"Softened" up roll controller PID to reduce control "rebound" behavior and produce a bit more roll inertia effect.
-Slightly improved cruise Mach efficiency to provide better range accuracy with contingency reserves.
-Corrected cabin pressurization values (approx. 6000 ft cabin pressure at 43,000 feet)
-Adjusted spoileron behavior (deploy only w/flaps 15 or above); I haven't found a satisfactory real world reference for this, but it seemed inappropriate for spoilerons to actuate at higher aircraft speeds.
-Minor Adjustments to trailing flaps behavior.
Please see version notes in the included install_readme file for a list of all changes made since project inception and a list of open items / known issues.
Installation:
Download the .zip file and extract to desktop or other location of choice.
Install the "DAKFLY_787Mod" folder into your Community folder
Start the sim and enjoy the modded 787.
Please read and follow the installation instructions in the included Install_ReadmeV1.X.X.txt file carefully.
Asobo Boeing 787-10 Flight Dynamics and Performance Modifications Project:
After reading user comments on the forums regarding the Asobo 787-10 concerning inaccurate weights, fuel consumption, handling, etc... and due to my own poor experience and frustration the stock model, I revised a wide variety of parameters in the configuration files decrypted by Asobo with Sim Update 10, modifying to more closely match the real world specifications and performance data for the 787. I'm not a 787-10 pilot, so my modifications are based on comments on forums from those who fly the type, and real world 787-10 aircraft performance data, flight manuals, and checklists. Input from type-rated pilots with knowledge of the aircraft handling and envelope will always be greatly valued. My adjustments are generally focused on performance and handling behaviors only. Any issues with the avionics functionality (anything you push a button on or turn a knob for in the cockpit) are not the subject of this project.
I have modified a great many variables and parameters in the available configuration files. I would greatly appreciate feedback on handling, control sensitivies, or other performance related parameters from knowledgable sources so I can continue to improve and update these modifications. If I missed something or you find a performance "glitch" please let me know.
It seems like after I installed the mod the altitude callouts during landing are gone - is there a fix/is this a known issue ? I would assume it would have come up a lot by now.
2 months ago
Johnny1445
2 months ago
Snoopy7412
update it with aau2
10 months ago
musakhan
no, recommend using this mod with heavy Division
11 months ago
atomsic
I have just tested this mod, and have enhanced in a goodway the flight model for the 78x. However, this mode modified the fuel consumption and I must say that it really bothers me how quickly does the full consume. I know that u have answered that the consumption increase in the cruise, but at 34FT and engines in 77% really consumes fuel.
1 years ago
MGarayP
Hi ALL... Unfortunately, the modification does not work properly. The plane swings throughout the flight, synchronously left and right. Flight on autopilot on various routes and flight plans created by Simbrief. After knocking out the modification, the problem stopped.
1 years ago
If you’re using with Boeing Heavy mod this is a known issue.
1 years ago
dakfly0219
Marco1965
do you mind telling us how to change the values to change the height of the aircraft to the proper height?
Also love the mod
1 years ago
The real aircraft sits lower than the in-game simulation allows. You can adjust these values using the aircraft.cfg file and adjusting the first three contact points. However, I found it difficult to set the on ground height lower without the wheels either clipping below the ground or creating handling problems on taxi, takeoff, and landing. If you find a solution to lowering the aircraft stance let me know and I'll incorporate into the mod.
1 years ago
dakfly0219
LeQu
Works perfectly, looks great
and is a great upgrade for the plane.
Even works with the B78XH mod
It is compatible with SU11,
thanks for that
1 years ago
Quassel89
Whats sad is that most of the liveries for the 787 dont work with this mod.. They are all outdated.
1 years ago
Could be a simple matter of adjusting the aircraft.cfg. Do you have a particular livery in mind I could test to see if I can resolve compatibility issues?
1 years ago
dakfly0219
Sousaboi865
Getting better each update!
Maybe lights next? 😉
1 years ago
What lighting systems are of interest? I haven't looked into this yet.
1 years ago
dakfly0219
kcjimenez1125
Thanks so much for this and for the update. I'm not sure if you are able to do this but is there an explanation of how to use this mod WITH the Heavy Division Mod?
Should both be installed in the Comunity directory, or do we take files from your mod and put them into the HD aircraft folder?
1 years ago
Just move this into the community folder. But delete the engine.cfg file from the heavy division folder
1 years ago
kcjimenez1125
mrb13676
Great mod and thanks for your work. Would you also make one for 747-8i? Its aerodynamic also sucks.
2 years ago
If I get the time to put into it, I'll take a look at the 747
2 years ago
dakfly0219
cxb744
First of all, excellent job, thanks for addressing some key issues with the flight dynamics of the 787.
Currently using it with the HD 787 mod - I have noticed zig zags just like some fellow colleagues, however mine are much more mild and not noticeable. It's as if the plane detects it is off course by X amount of nm laterally and takes action too soon.
Secondly, regarding fuel consumption, on a transatlantic Canada - Europe, Simbrief reckons I should be consuming 5.2T on average per hour. At the moment I am using at least 6.1-6.2T. Is this as a result of the aircraft, or due to MSFS itself? (I am a new user from the world of XP11).
Lastly, when departing a few moments ago, in the climb, when I would change from FLCH to VNAV, the thrust would roll back below 40-50% N1 when it should be delivering full thrust, and FLCH would deliver full thrust, although the power up to near maximum would take at least 30-45s. Is this related to forgetting to remove engines.cfg in my current session?
Let me know if you have any further questions or require clarification on anything else
2 years ago
I make no claims about compatibility between HD 787 mod and my mod although for the most part it works okay though some have reported considerable issues with LNAV and VNAV. Can't comment on your engines.cfg question. Would recommend you use the file I provided unless you are getting strange behavior you don't like. I don't know about that fuel burn expectation. The real world aircraft step climbs to between FL390 to FL410 as soon as it's able and the fuel burn goes down significantly once you're at the best cruising altitude and M0.85. I set up the fuel burn to leave sufficient contingency fuel for a flight of 8100 NM with max fuel (leaving a pretty light payload), which is the spec for the -10. For a typical loadout of 330+ passengers, crew, etc... you'll have enough fuel to make around 6500 NM with contingency fuel left. I don't have Boeing test data to work from, but I think the fuel burns generally match some public statements about fuel burns and range charts for the -9 and -10 on various segments and with various loadings. If you're seeing insufficient range or you're arriving with fumes when you should have sufficient fuel on board for contingency, after cruising at target cruise profile, let me know.
2 years ago
dakfly0219
pilotos
using this mod with HD and default simbrief profile of the 787 will not give you enough fuel. I think maybe around 15% adjustment would be sufficient I’ll still have to experient.
but overall the mod is an absolute improvement to the default especially the landing/flare behavior and the ground steering
2 years ago
You can use the fuel factor from simbrief to adjust this. If you think the mod consumes a 15% more, select fuel factor: "P15"
1 years ago
OG18
kcjimenez1125
Thanks for working on this, hope you can collaborate with HD.
Unfortunately the plane is basically unusable for me because it zigzags with LNAV trying to catch the path. Seems it is a result of your mod, as without it and just using HD there is no issue. Hope you can fix this as the rest of the mod is great!
2 years ago
I can only replicate with the sim rate at 4x - the plane seems to "jerk" about every 1 to 2 minutes elapsed time, which definitely seems to be a conflict with HD mod. Are you seeing this at normal sim rate or only when accelerated?
2 years ago
dakfly0219
LukiPilot